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almh · 14-12-2009, 08:55 PM

Because... I dunno! I've made one now though! Big Grin

**JHyde** · 14-12-2009, 08:58 PM

OK, back to Harry now. Because we can't stay away from him for long.

**Silktie** · 15-12-2009, 04:44 PM

Maybe there's another angle to the impact events in 8.1 had on Harry that could explain his softer approach in season 8. For the first time, perhaps, Harry had to sit there and see the impact his decision had on someone else. Usually, he's making these hard decisions in the cocoon of the Grid, where he is insulated from experiencing the grief these decisions cause other people. But this time, he had to sit there and watch the anguish his 'right decision' caused Ruth - a bird's eye view of the very real human cost of his decision. That would certainly make me think very hard about my own humanity.

almh · 15-12-2009, 05:05 PM

That's a really good point - I agree with that. He rarely does see the consequences but in 8.1 it was really in his face, happening to people he cared about, as well as his own life being at stake.

lwhite53 · 15-12-2009, 06:14 PM

Additionally, he was totally unable to do anything about it, as he did in 5.5. I think you may be on to something, Silktie.

**JHyde** · 15-12-2009, 10:55 PM

I think though, that Harry had been in the field for a very long time before he was made Head of Section D and he knows how his actions often play out. But, as you've pointed out before Silktie, they've not been Ruth.

lwhite53 · 15-12-2009, 11:37 PM

It's hard enough to do the "right thing" and have it adversely affect someone you don't know. To have your decision or action endanger someone you have deep feelings for really is untenable, the quintessential "rock and hard place" dilemma. Even though they both came out of it alive, how does Harry ever reconcile what he did with himself?

Beatriz · 16-12-2009, 10:06 AM

I think he felt better when Ruth told him he wasn't his fault and then he told her he was sorry. He needed both, hearing from Ruth she didn't blame him anymore and to ask herfor forgiveness.
I'm not saying he isn't affected, he is...

**Silktie** · 16-12-2009, 04:30 PM

Good point, Beatriz. So Harry now seems to be at the point where as long as Ruth can live with his decisions, he feels he hasn't gone over to the Dark Side yet.

almh · 16-12-2009, 08:12 PM

There's nothing wrong with the dark side. We have cookies Wink

I think that's a good point, he needed to know from Ruth that he made the right decision and that she had forgiven him.