[spoilers] Lucas. Just Lucas.

[NightOwl]

(26-10-2010 07:39 PM)Nitrus Wrote:  You've got to understand this, I do not think of your views as less valid than anyone else's. I'm not denying you an opinion. I'm just proposing an argument against what you believe.

The issue for me is that what the writers are doing DOES make sense. But you can't see that because you've made Lucas out to be this holier than thou god-like figure who you relentlessly believe is loyal to the last. Which just isn't the case in my opinion.

He's a spy who was betrayed by his country and left to rot in a Russian prison for 8 years, how can he possibly act rationally after that? His actions are completely justifiable, I just don't think you can bring yourself to admit that because you idolise him.

Wow. Maybe we should talk about something less contentious like politics or religion.

The storyline isn't working for a number of us who believe that the characterzation of Lucas is inconsistent with series 7 and 8. It has nothing to do with idolizing him or believing him to be a "holier than thou god-like figure" (I believe that would be a better description of the Harry fans!)

It does have to do with the numerous scenes throughout series 7 and 8 when Lucas explicitly showed or stated his loyalty to Harry and MI-5, starting with his "I''m MI-5" speech to Elizabeta. It does have to do with the fact that Elizabeta is the woman he thought about during his imprisonment and wanted to return to, but it's Maya he's now so desperate to be with that he'll betray his country. It does have to do with the fact that while Lucas has lost control of his emotions and made bad decisions at times so has pretty much every other character on the show.

You say Lucas can't act rationally after what he's been through and his actions are justifiable. But I'd say that the premise of the character has been that he can act rationally, that he can put what happened to him in a box (to paraphrase Tom). From taking down Kachimov and Dasharvin, to remaining calm when defusing bombs, to earning the respect of his colleagues, Lucas has been shown to be rational and capable. Is it realistic? Probably not. But it's what the writers have given us. What they haven't given us is any reason to believe that Lucas's actions are motivated or caused by what happened to him in Russia.