[spoilers] Harry and Ruth. The Wonder Years.

[Tea Lady]

(27-11-2010 04:23 PM)Forever Secret Wrote:  When I first watched it I went into shock...Asking her to marry him... was fine.. but at a colleagues funeral?... oh dear Harry

Maybe in S10 he'll ask again only this time at the right moment...

...Perhaps at Lucas' funeral ?? If he gets down on one knee, with a ring, and leaves out the bit about scraping bits of Lucas off the Ford Datson, he may just stand a chance this time

(27-11-2010 04:47 PM)binkie Wrote:  I'm posting in this thread for the first time. Hello!.

I have watched this show from the start, and am thoroughly invested in the history of the relationship between Harry and Ruth. I am curious, though, to understand exactly why there is so much support for the idea of Harry and Ruth as a happy (romantic) couple. Do we really think that Harry is right for Ruth, or even good for her, just because he loves her? What would Ruth get out of a long term emotional relationship with Harry except the knowledge that she is loved? She had this kind of relationship with George, and it does not seem to have been what she needed.

It seems to me sometimes that Harry puts a lot of invisible pressure on Ruth to be human and emotionally capable - perhaps because these are areas in which he feels himself to be lacking - and I wonder whether he is more in love with the idea of Ruth than he is actually in love with her as a complex and flawed human being.

I am not trying to undermine the optimism of this thread (I am a big fan of cheesecake myself). I just wonder what it is that we are in fact so invested in when we look at this relationship.

Welcome binkie to this super thread. I think the base reason that people want them to be happy and a couple, is that they have been through so much unhappiness and sacrificed so much, for their colleagues and their country. They are both a little older, and time is getting shorter. They deserve to be with the one they love, before there is no time left.

I think both put each other up on a pedestal to start with. I think Harry always loved Ruth for mind, body, and soul. I think with Ruth, it was more soul to start with. I think Ruth is still on the pedestal for Harry, and always will be, no matter what she does. For Ruth, I think Harry is more her equal now and she has seen the cracks forming in series 9, some of which she has not liked.

It is also great TV, super to watch, and something to look forward to for the rest of the year. You rarely get such chemistry on TV. Maybe it was there with Gene and Alex in Ashes, Niles and Daphnie in Fraser, but not to such a degree.