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**WhiteSwan** · 27-11-2010, 09:43 PM

(27-11-2010 05:20 PM)binkie Wrote: Good thinking in making this thread

Let me be the first person to say that the real villain of the piece for me is whoever was responsible for the risible Lucas-is-John storyline, followed closely by the person or persons who should have suggested a better alternative... and didn't.

As for actual characters:
1. Dr Kirby (ep3), who had trained his child from an early age to accept her death at the hands of others. The cynic in me thinks it is no wonder Harry was so morally lenient on him in the end
2. Robert Westhouse (ep2), who really was all the things Finn Lambert was so keen to expose in 8.3. Just because he wasn't an unusual kind of wicked (for Spooks anyway) doesn't mean we shouldn't notice his wickedness, or that we should think it is irrelevant
3. John Bateman (whoever he is/was), because he represented harm to Malcolm, and that's just not on!

I totallly agree with you when you say the real villain of the piece is the person who came up with that ridiculous JB storyline - whoever it was, for me he certainly is the most despicable contributor to S9.
But of course that's not really the topic of the thread. So coming back to the most despicable character of S9:

1. Maya. Compared with her even SC suddenly appears to be quite ok, because at least she had some sort of personality. Maya never seemed to be interested in anything, she was never bothered by anything, she never asked questions, in fact she never really did anything. But because of that the question is if she actually counts as a "character".
2. John Bateman. Dealing with drugs, blowing up the British embassy and killing lots of innocent people simply because he wanted to "be someone" or because he was bored (I never quite understood his motives), murdering his friend to get his passport, framing an innocent colleague, killing Danielle, being prepared to kill Malcolm and Ruth, betraying his country and finally taking his own life because he was too much of a coward to face the consequences of his actions - to me there hardly can be anyone more despicable than him. Still I can't really list him, because for me he doesn't exist. He's only a fantasy figure out of a nightmare poor Lucas is having (or out of a nightmare of one or more of the writers) and so of course for me he isn't a "character" of S9
3. Vaughn. He was behind the bombing in Dakar, he was working for the Chinese and, worst of all, he tried to make Lucas think he was someone called John Bateman. That's unpardonable and that's what makes him the real villain of the series and the most despicable character for me.