Season 10 - Episode 4 discussion

[Silktie]

(11-10-2011 05:30 PM)A Cousin Wrote:  If I was slow in the up-take in the last episode, I am now completely convinced that the writers are using the threat-of-the-week plots as a device for examining the actions, decisions and emotions of 30 years ago. To my mind - it's a brilliant device.

Yes, I love this aspect too. There are so many parallels between this threat of the week and the Russian angle, I'm not sure I noticed them all. There was Ashur vs Elena: both seeing the wrong their people are doing and betraying them because of that; and Erin willing to compromise the operation to save her child vs Harry willing to compromise the operation thirty years ago to extract Elena and save his child, etc. Great stuff.

Quote:(BTW, Silktie, what does "anvillicious" mean? )

It's Internet speak for a show dropping anvils and telegraphing something horrible about to happen: cue Erin being cosy with Rosie at the beginning of the episode, for instance. I tend to think that the threats of the week not only parallel what happened thirty years ago, but may also provide glimpses of what is about to come in the Russian storyline.

Quote: They can't possibly have time to tie JFK conspiracy theories into this story arc?!? Can they? I mean, if they do, more power to them but maybe its just another Easter Egg. It just shows how much the KGB/FSB distrust the CIA. I thought Ilya was just trying to manipulate Harry.

Hah, it would be hilarious if they manage to tie JFK's assassination into this: Harry Pearce - no mystery is too big for him to solve! But my guess is that it was just Harry being an obstructive, snarky whatsit towards Ilya. Similarly, Harry's comment about popping his call on speakerphone makes me laugh every time. I do enjoy it when he gets stroppy.

(11-10-2011 08:53 PM)Gazelle Wrote:  I still think Ilya Gavrik's playing a bigger role in proceedings than it currently appears - all the comments he makes to Harry suggest he knew about Elena's affair so is this all some kind of revenge? And what about the Russians shown at the start of the first episode discussing the Gavriks' visit to the UK and looking at Harry's file - they've got to be behind things too. And I say again, has anyone looked at all that intel downloaded from Ilya Gavrik's company laptop in episode 2 yet? How come that seems to have been forgotten?!

I agree. There has got to be more to Ilya and the Russians. If there isn't, it will be a missed opportunity to make this even more compelling in my book.

(11-10-2011 09:46 PM)lazyme63 Wrote:  I'm think the meeting with Ruth and Coaver on the bridge was set up. She was deliberately acting awkward to extract info from him, even if she may have found out some extra stuff. Not sure how realistic the hard evidence is - my first thought was - fake plates!

Interesting thought. I didn't initially think that the meeting was a set-up, merely that Ruth played it to her advantage once Coaver showed up and confronted her. But perhaps it was all part of her grand plan to get the evidence they needed. She was brilliant, a born Spook as Harry said. In some respects it makes me sad that she's now going off to play politics with the HS - hope she gets to use these spooksy talents there in some way as well.