Series 10 - Episode 6 Discussion

[A Cousin]

I too thought that the partnership went through - papers signed, hands shaken, pictures taken. Done deal. I think that is also why Harry was allowed back into the MI-5 fold at the end. Officially, he was brought in out of the cold to protect Ilya and make sure this deal went through. And that's what happened. He did his job. At great personal cost to just about everyone.

(28-10-2011 06:31 AM)Tea Lady Wrote:  Going back to Ruth's...err...passing... I can see why she did step forward. I posted elsewhere that it was because Sasha had just lost his mother and perhaps both parents. Ruth knows what it is like for a child to lose a parent, in her own life and with Nico. I'm not surprised she pushed herself forward. I just would have expected Harry to have anticipated what Sasha was going to do. If Sasha didn't have a weapon, he certainty was going to use his fists.

I really liked that insight. You also mentioned that Ruth of S3 or S4 would probably have gone back to the bunker (or gone looking for a handy tree branch ) when Harry told her too, but not S10 Ruth.

Now that cooler minds seem to be reigning, I hope I can say this now without starting another fire-storm. Because that is not my intent. I do not in any way wish to trivialize anyone else's opinions re: the death of Ruth. It was tragic and senseless and painful and sad and dismaying and upsetting and horrific and all those other words I can use to describe the howls of pain associated with it. All of which I share. I was as affected by her loss as everyone else. But, as JHyde said earlier, therein lay the drama. Just trying to have a conversation about intent and structure.

I think there was some symbolic intent involved with the killing of Ruth that, for me, was successfully executed. Much like The Saga of Lucas in years past, The Saga of Harry and Ruth had kind of taken on a life of it's own. The creators intentionally placed Harry & Ruth in the centre of this series for a reason. Much earlier in this thread, someone (I forget who) mentioned that 10.6 put a stake through the heart of Spooks. By having Sasha stab Ruth and put an end to the relationship of Harry and Ruth, the Producer proclaimed "heart of the programme," they put an end to the programme itself. The pain of losing this programme for us is almost as much as the pain of losing Ruth for Harry. For me, that is what is meant by a definitive ending for Spooks.