Harry and Adam

[Kazters]

There is a thread about the relationship between Harry and Lucas, but i find the one between Harry and Adam very interesting (especialy if you have read adam carter uncoverd). i think there is a bit of father figgure going on for adam with harry. he always wanted to please him and to not let him down! but they struggled to talk abotu things that matterd (which i think is the same for everyone with harry).

it could be argued that he was closer at times to adam than any other of his staff especialy when he would go on outings with adam and wes

[Nia M]

I've always wondered if Harry didn't know Adam before he joined Section D (or was it B in those days??)

He seems to know a fair bit about Adam's efficiency, and enlists him to warn the others in 3.01 about the trackers, and unless he knew Adam before then I doubt he would have chose him. If he had simply known of Adam / heard his reputation, he may have been more scepticle about roping him in, in case Adam was in fact on Mace's side.

If in that case Adam and Harry did know each other before, I wonder if Harry is Wes' godfather? He certainly seems to know him and get on with him fairly well, and I don't know about you but friends of my parents don't suggest taking me out somewhere (i.e. Harry suggesting Wes would like the dog races) unless they know me pretty well...

[Kazters]

well he seems to be aware of him and know him from MI6 that was the impression i got, that he was aware of him! they may have worked together, but harry certainly was aware of him, fiona and wes. thats a good point though about wes because harry dosent take (that we see) and interest into any other charactors family life! and with wes it certainly ramps up after fiona dies

[A Cousin]

I don't think there is a father figure there. At most, there are mutually recognized and acknowledged similarities between co-workers certainly as field agents and maybe as the only characters that are fathers on the show, disastrous as Harry's fatherhood was and as disastrous as Adam proves to be.

I am not sure that there is any indication that Harry knew Adam personally prior to drafting him into 5 other than by his obvious daring and reckless reputation. Both Harry and Adam were legendary in their times as field agents. Harry clearly likes that about Adam when questioned by Mace and deems Adams loose cannon tendencies brilliant. He needed an uninvolved brash new team leader who could take charge very quickly and you can't get much brasher than Adam.

When they take Wes to the dog races I think it is a bit of an excuse to meet outside of the Grid for a plausible reason. The next time we see Harry with Wes is to tell him about Adam's death. Unless I have forgotten something which is possible. Clearly Wes knows Harry but he also clearly knows that if Harry is there, something is wrong.

[Kazters]

it is possible that harry has seen wes more than that time at the track and then when he goes to tell wes about his father (which is heartbreaking!)

i think as well that harry respects and likes adam, they are similer in many respects both outwardly appear cold and closed off but really care about those around them, both prepared to do what ever it takes to protcect the country ETC.

im rewatching s5 and 6 and its clear that harry has had suspicions about adam and his behaviour but wont mention it.

[HellsBells]

Harry and Adam's relationship was clearly more than just mutual respect for colleges,

Series 7 Spoiler: show

otherwise why would Harry have kill Kachimov in 7.2. Harry has lost field officiers before but never taken such direct action

[Nia M]

Very good point. And IIRC Harry is Wes' god-father too?

[Kazters]

im sure ive heard that before nia!

[Nia M]

May have been me that said it

But I'm sure it was mentioned in Harry's Diary / an episode

[Kazters]

what an excuse to read harrys diary again¬

also that means harry knew adam before he came into section D which some didnt think was the case