[spoilers] Sir Harry Pearce - Return of the Jedi (#3)
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20-07-2011, 10:36 AM
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RE: [spoilers] Sir Harry Pearce - Return of the Jedi (#3)
(20-07-2011 06:08 AM)Silktie Wrote: A few thoughts based on the season 10 promo doing the rounds: I hope that you are right. Spooks glossed over the events of 8.1 in the whole S8. It was only in S9 that they decided to deal with the guilt of Ruth over the death of George. I do not think that Harry should feel guilty about Lucas’s death. After all, Lucas betrayed him and was ready to kill Ruth. The state secret was an empty one, otherwise Harry would never have given away Albany. Series S10 Spoiler: show |
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20-07-2011, 01:34 PM
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(20-07-2011 10:36 AM)beatrice4ruth Wrote:(20-07-2011 06:08 AM)Silktie Wrote: A few thoughts based on the season 10 promo doing the rounds: Yes, I've been thinking along those lines. I never really got why Vaughn was shown as knowing Harry, nor why he suddenly wanted to pass ALbany to the Chinese. And why did they link Harry to Dhakar and the bombings? What Lucus/Vaughn did would have stood alone, the Harry link wasn't necessary. Could it be that: Series 10 Spoiler: show |
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20-07-2011, 02:07 PM
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RE: [spoilers] Sir Harry Pearce - Return of the Jedi (#3)
Series series 10 Spoiler: show |
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20-07-2011, 04:56 PM
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(20-07-2011 01:34 PM)loladom Wrote: Yes, I've been thinking along those lines. I never really got why Vaughn was shown as knowing Harry, nor why he suddenly wanted to pass ALbany to the Chinese. And why did they link Harry to Dhakar and the bombings? What Lucus/Vaughn did would have stood alone, the Harry link wasn't necessary. Could it be that: I don't find the linking of Harry to Dakar and the bombing a problem. It was the British Embassy that was bombed, and the embassies are considered British territory. As such the security of the embassies will fall under MI5, just as the security of the country proper is their responsibility. That said, I don't expect to see any other fall-out from the season 9 storyline apart from the emotional impact on the characters and the Inquiry. And the fact that Harry has nothing to feel guilty about re Lucas, does not mean that he won't. I think it would be human in such circumstances to wonder whether you should have noticed something was wrong with the guy earlier. Or even to feel that you should have noticed when he first started working for you that he's not who he says he is. But more than anything else, I can see the events of season 9 making Harry doubt his own judgement of the people around him, hence that line in the trailer. But yeah, I agree it's more probable that it will be linked to the season 10 storyline, whatever it may be. |
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20-07-2011, 07:03 PM
(This post was last modified: 20-07-2011 09:44 PM by beatrice4ruth.)
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27-07-2011, 05:55 PM
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I have wondered why, over the years, Harry had given a second chance to Tom, even to Ruth indirectly through Tom (2.4), to Ros and to Lucas.
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28-07-2011, 06:36 AM
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I think that's more than possible. In fact almost certain. (He also gave Beth a second chance).
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28-07-2011, 11:51 AM
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(27-07-2011 05:55 PM)beatrice4ruth Wrote: I have wondered why, over the years, Harry had given a second chance to Tom, even to Ruth indirectly through Tom (2.4), to Ros and to Lucas. Good theory that. |
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01-08-2011, 08:42 AM
(This post was last modified: 01-08-2011 09:00 AM by pennyfeather.)
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Series 10 Spoiler: show It was the wind Ruth... |
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01-08-2011, 12:02 PM
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RE: [spoilers] Sir Harry Pearce - Return of the Jedi (#3)
Pennyfeather wrote:
"I read somewhere that a fellow poster thought that Ruth's crying at the end of Episode 8 might have been either for Lucas or Harry. I cannot believe that. She locked eyes with Harry before he left, acknowledged that it was his turn to die and then was fighting back tears as she carried out his orders. For me that crying scene was all about Harry and her love for him." I agree with you that, when Ruth locked eyes with Harry before he left and when she cried at the end, she showed her love for him. I never understood why some fans reproached Ruth the words "It's my turn" she said to Harry when she seemed to blame Harry for her rescue. Harry knew that Ruth believed it was her turn to die for the country. That's why, when he left the Grid, he told her "It's my turn". In 8.8 Ruth could not stop Harry from going to the hotel where Ros and the bomb were located. How was she going to stop him this time when he decided to meet with Lucas? Harry knows Ruth better than anybody else and vice-versa. They share the same values and fight for the same causes. That is why their love story is so compelling. Let's us hope that in S10 Harry's secret will not destroy their love, but strenghten it. I love the moral dilemna that Harry faced in S9. He was questioning himself after a long career. In fact, Harry is getting more and more interesting throughout the series. |
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