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[spoilers] Lucas Discussion 2
21-03-2011, 09:00 AM (This post was last modified: 21-03-2011 09:17 AM by BravoNine.)
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RE: [spoilers] Lucas Discussion 2
I think with the relationship of Harry and Lucas, both of them have made mistakes, it's not really one person's fault. Sometimes circumstances aren't the most conducive to making their relationship work, and in the line of business they work in, they have to make tough choices, and I think both of them understands that but as they are also human, there are moments of anger where these pent-up feelings show up and they each make valid points.

It's easy for us to say that Lucas should know the consequences of this job, but knowing it and facing it for 8 years, whether you chose to or not, it does great damage on a person's psyche. Lucas is not a robot, he has emotions and feelings, and even if he knew the dangers of this job, facing those tortures every day, facing those moments of heart-break and pain, it's not something easy to deal with. 8 years is a long time, and 8 years facing those moments alone is enough to drive anyone crazy. I'm still shocked that Lucas turned out generally normal after 8 years of torture.

And likewise, it's easy for us to say that Harry should have tried harder or make an attempt to be all warm and fuzzy to Lucas. The bureaucracy of the world that Harry has to play in is not exactly conducive to him getting his man back even if he wanted to. People end up as collateral damage to save the masses, that's always been the game of that world, and sometimes it has to be that way, to sacrifice a few to save the rest. It sucks, but when you are in that position of power, you can't think about those personal connections, this job doesn't allow time for that or else nothing would be done and no one would be saved. The fact that Harry did get Lucas back, even if it took 8 years is a testament to how Harry has not forgotten Lucas, and I do think that means a lot. He could have forgotten Lucas or not cared, but he got him back. And yes, I do rag on Harry a lot about not being warm and fuzzy and give Lucas hugs, but the fact remains that he is not Lucas's therapist, and while he should have kept a closer eye on Lucas's condition, he can't always be the one looking over Lucas's shoulder. He has to place trust in his own people too that they can do their job, and if he doesn't do that, Lucas will think he doesn't trust him and the whole relationship would just fall apart. Harry is often stuck between a rock and a hard place when it comes to Lucas.

And really, neither of them are the touchy-feely people, so when you got two emotionally-cold/stubborn mules, it could literally take ages for them to have a heart to heart. At some point, you just wish someone would smack them both on the head to knock some sense into them or better yet, lock them in a room until they figure it out. Wink

One of the things that Series 9 has always disappointed me with is that there was so much they could have done with Lucas and Harry's relationship, but they didn't bother to go explore into what that relationship meant, and it made those last scenes on the rooftop just seem really shallow. I mean, if they really wanted the series to be about dramatic betrayal and these two characters go head to head, I just wish they had bothered to explore the characters' histories and their feelings over the past and what has happened. There just wasn't enough depth in these characters' relationships to make those last rooftop scenes as powerful as it could have been from a storyline standpoint. Acting-wise however, RA and PF nailed those scenes so perfectly! I wish they just allow those two to be in scenes more!

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[spoilers] Lucas Discussion 2 - Nitrus - 05-03-2011, 08:38 PM
RE: [spoilers] Lucas Discussion 2 - Byatil - 05-03-2011, 08:52 PM
RE: [spoilers] Lucas Discussion 2 - Nitrus - 06-03-2011, 12:07 AM
RE: [spoilers] Lucas Discussion 2 - binkie - 06-03-2011, 10:52 AM
RE: [spoilers] Lucas Discussion 2 - xRuthx - 07-03-2011, 06:05 AM
RE: [spoilers] Lucas Discussion 2 - binkie - 07-03-2011, 10:55 AM
RE: [spoilers] Lucas Discussion 2 - Byatil - 06-03-2011, 02:25 PM
RE: [spoilers] Lucas Discussion 2 - Nitrus - 06-03-2011, 06:28 PM
RE: [spoilers] Lucas Discussion 2 - Byatil - 06-03-2011, 06:44 PM
RE: [spoilers] Lucas Discussion 2 - JHyde - 07-03-2011, 11:27 AM
RE: [spoilers] Lucas Discussion 2 - xRuthx - 07-03-2011, 12:03 PM
RE: [spoilers] Lucas Discussion 2 - xRuthx - 07-03-2011, 12:36 PM
RE: [spoilers] Lucas Discussion 2 - binkie - 07-03-2011, 05:22 PM
RE: [spoilers] Lucas Discussion 2 - binkie - 07-03-2011, 07:54 PM
RE: [spoilers] Lucas Discussion 2 - Byatil - 07-03-2011, 08:07 PM
RE: [spoilers] Lucas Discussion 2 - xRuthx - 08-03-2011, 08:22 AM
RE: [spoilers] Lucas Discussion 2 - Byatil - 07-03-2011, 08:10 PM
RE: [spoilers] Lucas Discussion 2 - Byatil - 08-03-2011, 11:05 AM
RE: [spoilers] Lucas Discussion 2 - Belle - 08-03-2011, 09:56 AM
RE: [spoilers] Lucas Discussion 2 - xRuthx - 08-03-2011, 10:08 AM
RE: [spoilers] Lucas Discussion 2 - Byatil - 08-03-2011, 05:59 PM
RE: [spoilers] Lucas Discussion 2 - JHyde - 09-03-2011, 03:13 AM
RE: [spoilers] Lucas Discussion 2 - xRuthx - 09-03-2011, 07:50 AM
RE: [spoilers] Lucas Discussion 2 - Nitrus - 09-03-2011, 12:36 PM
RE: [spoilers] Lucas Discussion 2 - xRuthx - 20-03-2011, 11:36 AM
RE: [spoilers] Lucas Discussion 2 - BravoNine - 21-03-2011 09:00 AM
RE: [spoilers] Lucas Discussion 2 - Byatil - 21-03-2011, 06:49 PM
RE: [spoilers] Lucas Discussion 2 - binkie - 22-03-2011, 06:04 PM
RE: [spoilers] Lucas Discussion 2 - xRuthx - 22-03-2011, 09:39 PM
RE: [spoilers] Lucas Discussion 2 - binkie - 24-03-2011, 04:14 PM
RE: [spoilers] Lucas Discussion 2 - Byatil - 29-03-2011, 01:55 PM
RE: [spoilers] Lucas Discussion 2 - xRuthx - 31-03-2011, 10:14 PM
RE: [spoilers] Lucas Discussion 2 - xRuthx - 31-03-2011, 10:27 PM
RE: [spoilers] Lucas Discussion 2 - xRuthx - 31-03-2011, 10:34 PM
RE: [spoilers] Lucas Discussion 2 - xRuthx - 02-04-2011, 10:27 PM
RE: [spoilers] Lucas Discussion 2 - Byatil - 06-04-2011, 10:35 PM
RE: [spoilers] Lucas Discussion 2 - Byatil - 06-04-2011, 11:47 PM
RE: [spoilers] Lucas Discussion 2 - xRuthx - 07-04-2011, 10:16 PM
RE: [spoilers] Lucas Discussion 2 - JHyde - 16-05-2011, 12:12 AM
RE: [spoilers] Lucas Discussion 2 - xRuthx - 26-05-2011, 12:46 AM

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