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nimax1 · 18-10-2011, 10:12 PM

(18-10-2011 07:43 PM)Scarlet Wrote:
(18-10-2011 05:55 PM)dodef7 Wrote:
(18-10-2011 05:28 PM)FATBOY Wrote: One question that's bugging me is why does Harry ask Towers to bring forward the signing of the deal with Russia just before he is extradited?

Any ideas?

I thought that too and what did Harry destroy when he burnt all the stuff in his garden? The more i think of it the more i feel that there might be another revelation about Harry in next weeks episode.

Yes, I think you may be right. I wonder if the stuff he burnt had anything to do with some previous operation that went bad? Could it be Harry has an idea who is behind this and it may be connected to a shady incident in his past? I'm sure the writers said something about the story arc
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coming down to Harry's past in Berlin. They mentioned 'Berlin Corners, '
though don't know what they are referring to there? I do hope there is someone else behind this whole thing as imo it would be just too obvious for it to be either Ilya or Elena and would be a let down I think. Disappointed that
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Juliet Shaw won't be returning
but what did the baddie say in a previous episode? Something about the wife of an MI6 officer being connected to the laptop robbery? Hm..

My impression is that the only thing he would have kept buried in his garden is something to save himself from some crazy inquiry or punishment in the future. Literally knowing where are the bodies/secrets are buried. And I think he has decided to sacrifice all that and himself because he's just done with the whole business. He's leaving no trace behind him. Just like what he did on the way out of the house. Which made me cry.

kaytea411 · 19-10-2011, 11:53 PM

(18-10-2011 05:28 PM)FATBOY Wrote: One question that's bugging me is why does Harry ask Towers to bring forward the signing of the deal with Russia just before he is extradited?

Any ideas?

Great comment.... I thought the question out of place too, especially the phrasing of "wouldn't refuse my last request." Towers looked even more 'uncomfortable' in his response -- which makes me suspicious of his knowledge/agenda.

I think Harry was trying to preempt the terroists' timetable. That he knows more than the audience at this point (ie, where was he when Ruth was lifting the laptop? How odd that he wouldn't watch over such a a major risk on her part).

With Ilya's revelation about his knowledge of the affair, plus comments related to Elena's interrogation (and miraculous release), plus her romantic pass at Harry --I think Harry is highly suspect of her now

beatrice4ruth · 20-10-2011, 12:27 AM

It's about time that Harry is highly suspect of Elena and perhaps even Sasha. It took him 30 years. For obvious reasons he is suspect of Ilya. Harry was already suspect of the meeting between the HS and the Gavriks at the HS home.

So many suspects, so little time left to solve the puzzle.

daphne · 20-10-2011, 03:46 PM

.. wow, I find I'm trying to "make deals" with the Spooks-powers-that-be, like "ok, I'll accept if Harry dies, IF he dies a hero and IF.."

this show has gotten to me! so reassuring to see we're all a bit batty, here- that I'm most assuredly NOT the only one--
sigh.

so I'm steeling myself for the probably loss of Harry.

this is what I envision (it will be fun to see how far off I actually am! !):

Elena turns out to be The Baddie behind it all- including 'faking' received communication from Harry. and the key/source of info for the Russians to carry through a terrorist attack on London.
all this because of Ilya's news that Elena was discovered and tortured.. all those years of potential nursing her betrayal/anger at Harry-- yikes-- turned her insides to poisonous revenge.

final showdown:
Harry is let go by the CIA to stop the Russian attack: one last heroic mission before facing whatever reprisals, if any-

Tom is called in (either by Harry himself or by the combined decision of Ruth & the ok by the Home Sec.) to HELP Harry- added protection ? for their mission, with the bonus of being unknown to the already-targeted MI-5-ers.

Elena sets things up to use Sasha as emotional blackmail/trap/hostage so that Harry won't go through with ... (fill in the blank- ex, killing her)

Harry has to save Britain, save Sasha and save Ruth.

he does all 3 Yahoo

of course- but sacrifices himself (sob. tears. inconsolable grief)

BUT.. we are given a silver lining ending: a few years later.. scene of Ruth and ... (maybe Tom? maybe someone else 'on the grid', maybe the Home Secretary, who now counts on Ruth for everything-at-work Smile

as well he should) WITH A BABY named Harry

Silba

anyways, that's my silly prediction

because holding out for the truly happy ending- Harry saves Britain AND then steps down and rides off into the proverbial sunset with his Ruth at his side- seems PREPOSTEROUSLY optimistic.

beatrice4ruth · (This post was last modified: 20-10-2011 06:30 PM by beatrice4ruth.)

After reading the comments of fans who have seen 10.6 and their reactions of dismay, it seems to me that it will end badly for either Harry or Ruth or both of them, either by death or separation.

I just hope that Harry will die as a hero and not as a disgraced Head of Section. I would not be surprised if Ruth is caught in the crossfire between Section D and the Gavriks.

I know that NW said that the fans would be satisfied, but as an actress she sees her character differently from us. So does Ian Wylie.

There is a remote possibility that the pre-viewers of 10.6 have not seen the last few critical seconds, but somehow I doubt it.

At least I am ready for the worst, despite HappyEnding predictions (red herring ?). I might not be able to count on Kudos to break the mold of predictable shock TV, but I know that I will not be disappointed in the terrific performances of PF and NW.

I hope that I am wrong and that I have to rewrite a positive criticism after the airing of 10.6

I am in a much better mood now. I just saw the Harry and Ruth promo DVD and they talk about their snogging in 10.6. In fact, they demonstrate it in the DVD! PF and NW are so cute together!

**Nitrus** · 21-10-2011, 10:42 AM

See, this is a post that appears perfectly fine.

nothingisasitseems · (This post was last modified: 21-10-2011 12:37 PM by nothingisasitseems.)

(21-10-2011 10:42 AM)Nitrus Wrote: See, this is a post that appears perfectly fine.

Great to see and I don't want to have a silly argument with you but earlier this morning the last post available to see was 18 October. The ones after have only appeared since so hopefully it will work from now on.

(21-10-2011 12:37 PM)nothingisasitseems Wrote:
(21-10-2011 10:42 AM)Nitrus Wrote: See, this is a post that appears perfectly fine.

Great to see and I don't want to have a silly argument with you but earlier this morning the last post available to see was 18 October. The ones after have only appeared since so hopefully it will work from now on.

Seems it is!!!! Smile

beatrice4ruth · (This post was last modified: 21-10-2011 12:48 PM by beatrice4ruth.)

EndingHappy has given us new clues in his thread "Thank you All" which you should read. It's quite interesting. I am so skeptical, but I suppose that EndingHappy means well and is knowledgeable and is not pulling our legs.

I have tried to decipher his other clue about the car scene in 10.5, but got nowhere as usual. I think that somebody has suggested that Harry now lives in a safe house. I think that it is one of the clues.

Perhaps some of you have an idea what he/she means by:

I also hope that those of you who do like speculating on the meaning behind certain things contained within different episodes, have done as l said and

Revisited episode 3 *crucial* from the moment it begins till the end

Episode 5, car scene after laptop is stolen by Ruth….The heart to heart is a *huge event* Find the meaning?

Episode 5, Harry’s house *Milk is the point to draw you in* Focus hard on the house, Tells a lot about Harry’s previous 24 hours

Episode 5, Beach Scene * Again hugely important….why?*

What do you think? Should we look into these clues or just wait till the airing of episode 6?

loladom · (This post was last modified: 21-10-2011 02:09 PM by loladom.)

Well, it's been pointed out previously and obviously in Harry's 'house'

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As for re-watching ep 3, well call me dumb but apart from again the obvious stuff we know about the second woman and the brief case, I have not joined the clues to that and ep5. And seriously, apart from Max bare chested, the odd R&H titbit and the CCTV stuff in the last seconds, ep3 is not the best ep Spooks has produced (IMO) and not sure it's up for copious re-watch. So please, someone, enlighten me if you've twigged it!

beatrice4ruth · (This post was last modified: 21-10-2011 02:48 PM by beatrice4ruth.)

I can't quite make up my mind whether EndingHappy is an impostor or not.

But you have covered all the important clues in episode 3. Perhaps we are to understand that Elena or a woman looking like her is behind Tariq's death and the brief case.

In episode 5 I suppose that Ruth knows that Harry lives in a safe house and that's why she does not know whether he means his real house or the safe house. Harry and even Ruth must know that somebody has put bugs in his house. Harry might have even found the bug in his car. After all he is a masterspy and not a rookie like Sasha.

Perhaps in the beach scene the last sentence of Harry to Ruth is a coded message. Perhaps Harry's request to the HS that the talks should finish that same day has a special meaning.

Speculating is futile. It's all beyond my comprehension and I am trying to wait patiently till the airing of episode 6.

Perhaps, I can speculate a last time.

What if, when we are told that the conclusion will end in a big bang, it really means

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