Series 10 - Episode 6 Discussion

[Nitrus]

(27-10-2011 09:45 PM)Gillymac Wrote:  Good ones, like spooks, strike triggers in the minds of the viewer which in turn fuel your imagination, makes you give a damn and keeps you tuning in each week (which is the whole point - to hook you) - but here's the rub -what you feel, think, imagine, want or wish for those characters doesn't come into it I'm afraid, because ultimately simply projecting your own wishes onto characters, doesn't make them behave the way you want them to. Just because it's in your head, doesn't make it so.

This is my favourite paragraph.. perhaps ever.

[Betty]

When I said "if anything was there at the beginning of season 10" I was picking up on something that nimax1 said--that there was something substantively different about Ruth and Harry's relationship at the beginning of this season. They seemed more comfortable with each other, and it made us wonder what if anything had happened (in the writers' minds, I guess) while Harry was on gardening leave.

I know that's not your favorite sort of speculation Thanks for keeping this great site up, incidentally. It's been a very enlightening week, talking to all of these bright people about Spooks. In my real life, I know just one other person (my husband) who watches "MI-5".

[pookster]

(27-10-2011 09:45 PM)Gillymac Wrote:  [b]Good ones, like spooks, strike triggers in the minds of the viewer which in turn fuel your imagination, makes you give a damn and keeps you tuning in each week (which is the whole point - to hook you) - but here's the rub -what you feel, think, imagine, want or wish for those characters doesn't come into it I'm afraid, because ultimately simply projecting your own wishes onto characters, doesn't make them behave the way you want them to. Just because it's in your head, doesn't make it so.
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Well said.

[pennyfeather]

I'm back after a day of hiding (and exams). By the comments it seems to me that posters are returning back to questioning/ finikity mode i.e working out the how's, who's and what's of little plot details. Emotion is receeding and reason interceding. I remember feeling completely in awe of anyone whose post managed to include sasha or someone outside of the H/R 'event.' Of course that's a generalization (we're good at those aren't we ) but it feels like the good old forum days have returned (if only in part) before day when darkness fell. Nice to see.

[JHyde]

Dog SoSmall, I am a few pages late but I appreciate the gracious apology very much.

[pennyfeather]

We can tell

[Silktie]

(27-10-2011 08:15 PM)Tea Lady Wrote:  I was trying to figure out why Harry didn't try and push Ruth away more when Sasha arrived. I don't think they could see the shard of glass in Sasha's hand though. Maybe if Harry had seen it earlier...

(27-10-2011 09:08 PM)Nitrus Wrote:  I wondered this as well TL, both of their efforts to try and calm the situation down were a bit tame. They did the standard "I'm Spartacus" routine and then for some reason Ruth just walked forward, I thought originally this was to protect Harry but he was a few yards away and had already demonstrated his ability to use hand-hand combat to disarm Sasha.

Heh, yeah, plus they had that whole beach/field to run away in, but no... I also thought Harry might have been able to talk the young 'un round, given more time, or keep him talking until help arrived. So I agree it was a tad contrived.

So, after all the developments in episode 6, are we meant to take it that the Russia/Britain partnership signed at the beginning of the episode is intact and going ahead?

[Gillymac]

I assume so. Doesn't Harry say something along the lines of "we're partners now" to Ilya when he's asking him to make the call to Towers? Just before Ilya asks to speak to Ruth alone. Apologies if that quote isn't bang on. It's early

[Tea Lady]

I would assume the partnership agreement held. I doubt that Russia ever found out what had really gone on with Elena's death. To cancel the partnership agreement would have played into the ultra nationalists hands.

Going back to Ruth's...err...passing... I can see why she did step forward. I posted elsewhere that it was because Sasha had just lost his mother and perhaps both parents. Ruth knows what it is like for a child to lose a parent, in her own life and with Nico. I'm not surprised she pushed herself forward. I just would have expected Harry to have anticipated what Sasha was going to do. If Sasha didn't have a weapon, he certainty was going to use his fists.

[DogSoSmall]

Thanks, JHyde. I was wondering if we were ok, and it seems we are.